The Cautionary Tale of Ken Fisher

Jim Woods

Jim Woods has over 20 years of experience in the markets from working as a stockbroker, financial journalist, and money manager.

Remember the band Supertramp? One their best-known classics is “The Logical Song.” And if you know the song, you also know the memorable first line in the chorus:

“I said, watch what you say, or they’ll be calling you a radical.”

Perhaps money manager Ken Fisher should have boned up on his Supertramp before deciding to make the comments that he recently made at the Tiburon CEO Summit, an annual conference of money managers held in San Francisco.

Although the summit’s content and speaker presentations are supposed to be confidential, therefore allowing the free exchange of ideas, criticisms and concerns in the industry to fully air, word of Ken Fisher’s comments were soon exposed via social media.

And when the word got out about what Fisher had said, well, that’s when things really turned ugly for the billionaire founder and chairman of Fisher Investments.

According to a recording of the comments that was obtained by CNBC, Fisher made what many considered to be highly inappropriate, offensive and sexist comments that compared money managers’ trying to land clients to men trying to persuade a woman to have sex.

Here’s how CNBC wrote it:

“Money, sex, those are the two most private things for most people,” so when trying to win new clients you need to be careful. He said, ‘It’s like going up to a girl in a bar … [inaudible] … going up to a woman in a bar and saying, hey, I want to talk about what’s in your pants.’”

Since the comments by Fisher surfaced, his money management firm has lost more than $2 billion in assets. Already, five high-profile pension funds that had hundreds of millions of dollars invested with Fisher jumped ship. Then, in a stunning blow for his firm, Fisher lost the support of brokerage giant Fidelity Investments. The company reportedly terminated a $500 million relationship with Fisher Investments.

Now, the important thing for you, The Deep Woods reader, to be aware of is that over the past several years, the entire climate for free speech and what can and cannot be said has changed.

Today, you cannot make an “off color” joke, or a sexual innuendo, or even any kind of slightly inappropriate comment — either in public or semi-privately — without the chance of incurring a blowback.

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In the case of Ken Fisher, his remarks were supposed to be kept confidential by the attendees of the Tiberon CEO Summit. However, they weren’t. In fact, the reason we even know about his comments is due to a phenomenon that’s arisen in the past couple of years known as “call-out culture” or “cancel culture.”

Basically, call-out culture is a form of public shaming that aims to hold individuals and/or groups accountable for their actions by calling attention to behavior that is perceived to be problematic. Furthermore, the call-out is usually done via social media.

The call-out here in this case came from Alex Chalekian, a money manager who runs Lake Avenue Financial. Chalekian was at the conference and heard Fisher’s speech. Then, he posted a video about the situation on Twitter with the words “I’m truly disgusted.”

The video then went on to describe some of Fisher’s comments, including references Fisher had made to “genitalia,” “picking up on girls,” references to “Jeffrey Epstein” and “tripping on acid” and “other inappropriate comments.” Chalekian also said he spoke with many of the women at the conference who he said told him that the comments Fisher had made were “one of the reasons they don’t like coming to these conferences as it makes them feel uncomfortable.”

In the video, Chalekian then went a step further by saying that after he talked to others at the conference, he found out that, “Ken Fisher is actually known for making these types of comments around the workplace with his employees. One of his past employees told me that he [Fisher] had made a comment to them talking about the fact that he thinks slavery should have never been abolished.”

The result of Chalekian’s Twitter video has been a major wound to Ken Fisher’s business and the bleeding is likely far from being stanched.

Now, I am in no way supportive of what Ken Fisher allegedly said. I don’t personally know Ken Fisher, although I do have a former colleague who has worked for Fisher for about the past decade. And, I don’t know Chalekian. I had never heard of him or Lake Avenue Financial until this incident. So, I have no dog in this fight.

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What I want you to learn from this is that, given today’s call-out culture, it makes little sense to utter even the hint of an off-color remark or anything that can be perceived as an insensitive comment — especially if you are doing so in a public forum, or on social media or even anytime you put anything in writing (e.g. a text message to a friend, an email joke to a colleague, etc.).

Now, that’s not to say you shouldn’t speak your mind about the critical issues that you are passionate about. You definitely should. I do that every week in this publication, and I have zero plans to temper any of my sometimes uniquely, non-mainstream, non-politically correct thoughts.

Yet what you won’t find in this column is any racist, misogynist, offensive or otherwise off-color language that can be used to “call me out.”

My arguments, and I hope your arguments as well, on any issue are based on evidence, logic and philosophic principles which state that reason and a fealty to reality are prime directives. You may disagree with my conclusions, fair enough. But you will not get far by trying to paint me into some pre-ordained enemies list.

For anyone trying to make a point in society, or for anyone trying to just have a good conversation with others, make sure your comments — public or private — comport with the best within you. If they don’t, and if you utter the sort of remarks that Ken Fisher allegedly has, then you’ll likely be punished for it.


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Stinging Wisdom

“Men go crazy in congregations. They only get better one by one.”

— Sting, “All This Time”

I believe that when people start thinking along with a group, they stop improving their independent thinking skills. If you want to make real progress in life, a good way to do so is to separate yourself from whatever groups you belong to and reevaluate if what that group says comports with what you actually think. If it does, then by all means return to that group. If not, then go your own way. Whatever your conclusions, at least you’ll know you reached them independently.

Wisdom about money, investing and life can be found anywhere. If you have a good quote that you’d like me to share with your fellow readers, send it to me, along with any comments, questions and suggestions you have about my newsletters, seminars or anything else. Click here to ask Jim.

In the name of the best within us,

Jim Woods

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